Topic "problems with 1.30"

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burning shadow

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1. Keepalive doesn't work at all. None of 2 modes, with none of protocols.
2. In session manager on SCP page Shell value is not saved.
3. All dialogs ignore FAR's "[ ] Backspace deletes unchanged text" setting.
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burning shadow

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4. I can't rename file on server using ShiftF6 combination.
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burning shadow wrote:
1. Keepalive doesn't work at all. None of 2 modes, with none of protocols.

More details, please. WinSCP does not send the keepalives or server ignores them?
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2. In session manager on SCP page Shell value is not saved.

Thanks, I'll fix that.
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3. All dialogs ignore FAR's "[ ] Backspace deletes unchanged text" setting.

I may be blind, but I cannot find the option. Where it is? However anyway, I guess, this problem should be reported to FAR developers.
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I can't rename file on server using ShiftF6 combination.

More details, please. ShiftF6 does nothing or it does something, but the renaming fails, or what?
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prikryl wrote:
burning shadow wrote:
1. Keepalive doesn't work at all. None of 2 modes, with none of protocols.

More details, please. WinSCP does not send the keepalives or server ignores them?

I don't know. Sad I know that connection brakes after some time of inactivity. And I know that PuTTY's keepalive option works fine with the same server.

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3. All dialogs ignore FAR's "[ ] Backspace deletes unchanged text" setting.

I may be blind, but I cannot find the option. Where it is? However anyway, I guess, this problem should be reported to FAR developers.

Options -> Dialog settings -> [ ] Backspace deletes unchanged text

All standard dialogs in FAR use this option, so when I press DEL in dialog with unchanged text, selection mark dissapears and only last character is deleted. In WinSCP plugin's dialogs pressing DEL on unchanged text leads to deletion of whole text.

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I can't rename file on server using ShiftF6 combination.

More details, please. ShiftF6 does nothing or it does something, but the renaming fails, or what?

Ok, I just noticed it actually works Shocked But it didn't. I guess it doesn't work only under the certain circumstances. I'll try to figure it out.. Anyway, when I press ShiftF6 on an ordinary file, FAR displays a dialog with only this file's name. WinSCP plugin dislays "/path/to/file/*.*" in this dialog.
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burning shadow wrote:
prikryl wrote:
More details, please. WinSCP does not send the keepalives or server ignores them?

I don't know. Sad I know that connection brakes after some time of inactivity. And I know that PuTTY's keepalive option works fine with the same server.

What is your SSH server? Also please check WinSCP log file to see if it is actually sending the keepalives.

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Options -> Dialog settings -> [ ] Backspace deletes unchanged text

What is your version of FAR?
I'm using 1.70 beta 5, actually the only FAR version that is supported by the plugin, and I do not have "Dialog settings" in "Options" menu.

My "Options" menu looks like:
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System settings
Panel settings
Interface settings
Languages
Plugins configuration
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Confirmations
File panel modes
File descriptions
Folder description files
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Viewer settings
Editor settings
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Colors
Files highlighting
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Save setup        Shift-F9

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prikryl wrote:
What is your SSH server? Also please check WinSCP log file to see if it is actually sending the keepalives.

Ok, I'll make a log next time I'll see this problem and give you maximum details.

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Options -> Dialog settings -> [ ] Backspace deletes unchanged text

What is your version of FAR?
I'm using 1.70 beta 5, actually the only FAR version that is supported by the plugin, and I do not have "Dialog settings" in "Options" menu.

The FAR manager, version 1.70 alpha 6 (build 1812) - TEST ONLY!

It's the latest and most bug-free version. Maybe they separated this group of settings from Interface settings group, but this option was in far since first version of 1.70, afair.
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burning shadow wrote:
The FAR manager, version 1.70 alpha 6 (build 1812) - TEST ONLY!

I haven't known about the version. You should have noted.

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Maybe they separated this group of settings from Interface settings group, but this option was in far since first version of 1.70, afair.

I have tried hard but the option in not in previous versions. I'll try the alpha 6.
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prikryl wrote:
I haven't known about the version. You should have noted.

Yeah, sorry, I just thought it was innecessary.. Rolling Eyes

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I have tried hard but the option in not in previous versions. I'll try the alpha 6.

Now I know why. It wasn't in menu options at all, but it was in TechInfo.txt:
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5. [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Far\Dialog]
"EULBsClear":REG_DWORD
The key "Dialog/EULBsClear" of DWORD type specifies behavior of the
BackSpace key in dialogs for edit lines which have the condition
"UnChanged".
If the value is not equal to 0, pressing the BackSpace key deletes the
entire line, just like pressing Del.
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WinSCP plugin does not reflect that option, because the edit boxes are not in "condition
UnChanged". The have enabled auto-select, so whole text is selected as beginning. In such case, the text is deleted despite the state of the option. As edit boxes of FAR standard dialogs have auto-select off, I have switched it off for the plugin as well.

The change will be included in the next release within few days (up to one week).
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One more feature request. Is it possible to make dialogs to behave more like in FAR's standart functions? For example, when uploading files to server, put path without wildcards in upload dialog. When renaming by ShiftF6, put only filename in rename dialog. And if it is possible, add ShiftF5 function, which copies file under another name. Useful to make *.bak files.

By the way, I remembered now. Renaming files always worked fine. It is ShiftF5 which works not as it supposed to.
burning shadow

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About keepalives. WinSCP stops to send keepalives when some file is opened in editor. I guess this is not the only one condition, though.
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burning shadow wrote:
One more feature request. Is it possible to make dialogs to behave more like in FAR's standart functions? For example, when uploading files to server, put path without wildcards in upload dialog.

I prefere to leave it as it is.

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When renaming by ShiftF6, put only filename in rename dialog.

ShiftF6 is "Move to different remote directory" in plugin's context. Of course it works as rename as well. FAR itself does not have such function (there's no reson). So you cannot compare it.

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And if it is possible, add ShiftF5 function, which copies file under another name. Useful to make *.bak files.

It is on the wishlist. However SFTP protocol does not support making duplicates. So to implement this, plugin would have to download the file and upload it back under different name.
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burning shadow wrote:
About keepalives. WinSCP stops to send keepalives when some file is opened in editor. I guess this is not the only one condition, though.

That's true. Keepaliaves does not work when any dialog/editor/viewer is shown. It is rather limitation of FAR, but I can do some workaround in the next version. So far, no one has compained Smile
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prikryl wrote:
I prefere to leave it as it is.
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ShiftF6 is "Move to different remote directory" in plugin's context. Of course it works as rename as well. FAR itself does not have such function (there's no reson). So you cannot compare it.

How about an option? Smile

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It is on the wishlist. However SFTP protocol does not support making duplicates. So to implement this, plugin would have to download the file and upload it back under different name.

It's a pity Sad Maybe it should be implemented only in SCP mode?
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burning shadow wrote:
prikryl wrote:

ShiftF6 is "Move to different remote directory" in plugin's context. Of course it works as rename as well. FAR itself does not have such function (there's no reson). So you cannot compare it.

How about an option? Smile

I do not like adding such option. Maybe I can add another shortcut, like ShiftCtrlF6 for "rename". OK?

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It is on the wishlist. However SFTP protocol does not support making duplicates. So to implement this, plugin would have to download the file and upload it back under different name.

It's a pity Sad Maybe it should be implemented only in SCP mode?

Sure, I plan this.
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prikryl wrote:
I do not like adding such option. Maybe I can add another shortcut, like ShiftCtrlF6 for "rename". OK?

Yes, thank you! Smile
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I have added the function already. Please wait for the next release (within few days).
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