Has anyone experience with winscp and MVS-Files?

Does anybody has experience how to transfer files from an MVS (z/OS) - System to a unix or windows-system. I mean Files in MVS-structure, not files from the MVS - Unix.

Transfering files with sftp requires first to copy mvs-files to mvs-unix and transfer them in a second step to any machine.

Any help appreciated.

thx in advance.