version 382 needs 30 seconds to connect 356 connects at once

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version 382 needs 30 seconds to connect 356 connects at once

hello
I installed version 3.82
it takes a long time to connect
when I tried 356 I had saved on a computer where I used it 2 years ago, it connected at once.
I can see no difference in any configuration I could think of.

from the logs:
version 382 needs 30 seconds to connect:

. 2006-07-08 11:49:23.214 Looking up host "defrwcp121dws36.dws.eur.deuba.com"
. 2006-07-08 11:49:53.741 Connecting to 0.1.0.1 port 22

version 356 (unfortunately no timestamps in log) does this at once:

. Looking up host "defrwcp121dws36.dws.eur.deuba.com"
. Connecting to 0.1.0.1 port 22

I use windows xp, the servers are windows2003, the server software is vshell.

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Re: version 382 needs 30 seconds to connect 356 connects at once

Can you try to connect with the latest PuTTY?
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I used latest putty anyway ( putty 0.58 )
I start the two versions from the same xp-machine to the same target - so I guess the difference must be in the software? I could not find anything in the settings for the sessions which would be different between the two versions (in both cases i just used defaults)

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HeinzKnoth wrote:

I used latest putty anyway ( putty 0.58 )
OK, but does it have the delay or not?
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oh sorry, yes it has (but I usually dont need it - using remote desktop - so I did not notice)
######putty 0.58#########
2006-07-10 22:06:14 Looking up host "defrwcp121dws36.dws.eur.deuba.com"
2006-07-10 22:06:44 Connecting to 0.1.0.1 port 22
2006-07-10 22:06:44 Server version: SSH-2.0-VShell_2_2_2_547 VShell
2006-07-10 22:06:44 We claim version: SSH-2.0-PuTTY_Release_0.58

there is the same 30-seconds delay

I think I'm on the way to find out a difference now:
all the new 2003 servers send a legal notice

when I try putty 0.58 I cannot overcome that,
it hangs with:
********
Using username "xtrnkno".
********

putty 0.54 will let me login with:
***********************************************
Using username "xtrnkno".
Legal Notice

Access to this computer is prohibited unless authorised.
Accessing programs or data unrelated to your job is prohibited
xtrnkno@defrwcp121dws36.dws.eur.deuba.com's password:
***********************************************

and the eventlog shows no delay:
###############
2006-07-10 22:18:24 Looking up host "defrwcp121dws36.dws.eur.deuba.com"
2006-07-10 22:18:24 Connecting to 0.1.0.1 port 22
2006-07-10 22:18:26 Writing new session log (raw mode) to file: putty.log
2006-07-10 22:18:26 Server version: SSH-2.0-VShell_2_2_2_547 VShell
2006-07-10 22:18:26 We claim version: SSH-2.0-PuTTY-Release-0.54
2006-07-10 22:18:26 Using SSH protocol version 2
################

The "legal notice" was the reason why I did not change the authentication method of vshell from password to public key - which I would have liked, because we all who have to access these servers already have a ssh-key for tunneling and it would (using pageant) save us password entries many times a day. But when I switched to ssh I always failed authenticating due to the - it seems - unexpected legal notice.

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If you remove the notice, does the delay go away?
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Well - I suppose so, but I'm not allowed to. These are (hundreds of) Servers underlying a written (and monitored!) Policy which requests a legal notice poping up!
I wonder why the older versions could deal with that, the newer not?
The old putty version shows the notice
##########################
Legal Notice

Access to this computer is prohibited unless authorised.
Accessing programs or data unrelated to your job is prohibited
##########################
and obviously answers with a "CR" which makes login possible.

In the older version of winscp I see nothing of the legal notice at all.
The newer version shows me - after that 30 seconds delay - a "authentication Banner", containing the legal notice
*****
Legal Notice

Access to this computer is prohibited unless authorised.
Accessing programs or data unrelated to your job is prohibited
******

When I mark the box "never show this banner again" I dont see it at the next login at that server -

but unfortunately this does not solve the 30 seconds delay-question.

To make it short:
the newer putty does not allow login at all
the newer winscp has this annoying delay (when you have to connect many many times a day to many servers ...)

the older versions have none of this problems in exactly the same environment.

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If the legal notice is displayed as "authentication banner", then I do not think it is cause of the delay.
What if you specify directly IP address of the server instead of the hostname?
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hurra!
that works! (I should have tried that before...)
and putty lets me login to!

Martin I really thank you for your help!! - Now I can try to change authentication to ssh ...

You did help me in a similar case about two years ago, when I worked for another customer and had problems, since then I introduced putty and winscp for two other customers and I always tell them how helpful you have been.

(I'm still curious what difference between the two version resulted in that anyway)

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HeinzKnoth wrote:

(I'm still curious what difference between the two version resulted in that anyway)
So am I. But I do not know how to find that out.
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